September 4, 2008 - 1:59pm
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Clinton loyalist unmoved by Palin speech
By Britten Chase, PolitickerOR.com ReporterMINNEAPOLIS -- A Democratic National Convention delegate for Hillary Clinton said Thursday that the convention speech delivered by Republican vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin (R-Alaska) would not be influencing Clinton loyalists to vote for GOP nominee John McCain.
“John McCain’s Vice Presidential pick is going to have only one affect on Clinton loyalists. It reinforces our support for Barack Obama,” said Mary Botkin, senior political coordinator for Oregon’s American Federation of State, County and Municipal Employees.
Many Clinton supporters had hoped they would see the first woman in the White House, but Clinton lost the primary to eventual nominee, U.S. Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.). While Palin is the first woman nominated for the vice presidency by the Republican Party, Botkin said that having a woman on the ticker was not enough for Hillary supporters to justify a switch to the GOP.
“I’m insulted that John McCain thinks a woman who supports George Bush’s disastrous economic policies and has zero foreign policy experience is a stand in for Hillary Clinton,” Botkin said. “His choice is an insult to Hillary Clinton, her supporters and everything we value. It’s a desperate political pander that is already sinking his campaign.”
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McCain/Palin
Sarah Palin has hit the scene like a combination debutant and Debbie Reynolds-style “Annie Get Your Gun” NRA gal from the 1950s. She’s cute, personable, confident and accomplished. I
relate to her coming out of nowhere in Alaska politics and making a splash with more youth and success than I did in my bid for U.S. Senate in the Democratic primaries. She has guts and grist. But that still does not qualify her to become vice president and a heartbeat away from the presidency. The second highest office is not one in which Americans train our world leaders.
Palin cannot claim any commonality with Hillary Clinton, a woman who forged a path for many years under great criticism and difficulty and who actually is fit to be president. It is insulting to claim that the 18 million cracks painstakingly put into the glass ceiling by Hillary Clinton’s blood and guts can be equaled with one more whack and a smile.
It is not legally required in this country that we be patriotic. It is nice but not law. It is even more important that we care about our neighbors and their well-being. It is important that our decisions not be self-serving and reckless and do not endanger others. I found McCain’s vice presidential pick actually to be unpatriotic. He showed a remarkable lack of concern about providing Americans with the most qualified candidate. He took a gamble and, in doing so, gambled with the very future of his nation. If McCain were elected and died, he would not even be around to suffer the aftermath of his “toss-the-dice” decision.
I wish I were amused, or even just insulted. I’m actually hurt that McCain is so opportunistic and ambitious that he would select his running mate with the same care one might put into
fishing the name of the winner of a ham raffled at a company picnic. A brief chat, a quick decision, and he’s good to go. If McCain, a man who has had several bouts with cancer and
just celebrated his 72nd birthday, gets elected and dies in office, his careless decision will long haunt me like his smile of the Cheshire Cat.
McCain’s selection for vice president, and his method of selecting her, makes me seriously question his ability to make fundamentally sound and selfless decisions that reach beyond his
personal short term benefit. As president, McCain would be in a position to make decisions that affect every American — and perhaps the very future of the world. McCain’s choice of
Palin has generated much fuss, frivolity and amusement, but his hair-trigger decision-making is cause for great concern. Or, as McCain puts it, "Often my haste is a mistake, but I live with the consequences without complaint."
Oh, that John McCain’s haste only affected him.
We get it all wrong. Palin
We get it all wrong. Palin choice doesn't aim directly at Hillary voters (although, a few may swing. It's actually aiming at the conservative base, MEN AND WOMEN alike. That base wasn't Hillary's, to begin with. At this point, I'd rather vote for someone whom I disagree with some of their stances if they show integrity and sincerity.
Reality...
Palin speech was impressive of course, but did we expect anything less??? At the end of the day it doesn't matter how well a person can deliver a speech. What matter the most is the policies and overall direction of where the canidate wants to take the country. Being down to earth, nice, pretty, and other beautiful things is a positive. But, lets not forget the issues at hand. It is only right to vote for the person that issues and policies you seem to have in common with. Forget that the person is a woman or they are black or they have such a likable personality. What are they planning on doing about the economy? What are they planning on doing about about ending this war? What are they talking about doing about the social issues that is affecting our people. Questions like these should be raise. Not whether you deliver a good speech that is written for you by a good speech writer. Or that you seem to have a likable personality. All of that will come anyway.
Sarah Palin
As a former, and perhaps only, Republican labor union president in the State of Oregon I had a nodding acquaintance with Mary Botkin. In several respects she missed the point on Sarah Palin. Was there a political calculation in naming Sarah Palin as VP nominee? Of course. All politicians make politcal calculations. Was the Palin selection pandering to or insulting to Hillary Clinton supporters? Why? One presumes that Ms. Botkin does not believe that Clinton supporters will blindly consider gender as the only criterion for voting for a candidate. I for one, believe that Mrs. Clinton's supporters will actually examine Sarah Palin's positions rather than casting their votes based on chromosomes.
With regard to Sarah Palin's qualifications, arguably, her credentials as a VP candidate are superior to the credentials of the Democrat's presidential candidate: city council, mayor, governor, commander of the Alaska National Guard. As governor of the largest state in the union, (263 times the size of Delaware with a population roughly the same as Delaware)and Alaska being a major oil and gas producing state, Mrs. Palin is no doubt familiar with energy and environmental issues; big issues on the politcal plate. Foreign policy? My recollection is that John McCain is the head of his ticket. He did not choose Sarah Palin to bolster his foreign policy cred. While Ms. Botkin wishes to suggest that Mr. McCain is about to teeter into his grave, Mr. McCain's 96 year old mother may argue that he has a few good years left, more than enough to polish Sarah Palin's foreign policy experience. But, in a worse case scenario, if Sarah Palin became President in the short term, I have a two word response: Harry Truman. Before his surprise ascension to the presidency he did not even know about the existence of the Manhattan Project. He did not turn out too badly based on my reading of history.
With regard to Sarah Palin's selection "..already sinking.." John McCain's campaign, such a statement is credible only in the hothouse confines of a Portland or Multnomah County where liberal orthodoxy is an assumed creed.
Nope
I am a Strong Hillary Supporter, way over 50, white, female and any woman that "swings" palin's way...is Not doing her "political Homework" in order to make an Informed decision.
Women Being true to anyone/anything based on superficial BS are certainly Not looking out for themselves, their own family and children. Period.
has Nothing to do with
has Nothing to do with Mccains time left on earth. My Grandmother lived to be 95 Yo...yet MY mom died at 51.
palin is NO Harry Truman!!!
Not a good argument. In fact...all of the comparisons are weak nonsense and IF the Dems tried any of that BS...the Pubs would be All over it, viciously ....
I have More qualifications to be President than Palin, if you consider the "transferable skills" thew Pubs are leaning on and YES, I said Prez...the odds of her stepping up to that occasion are high. sadly, mccain is Not a well man.
Palin, Imho, has a tainted history based upon self serving ambitions to "get for herself"...You can try to diminish the stark lack of credibility, the lack of experience demonstrated, one really Must have to understand and INCLUDE the rest of the country's peoples (ALL of us) in her goals. So far her experience has demonstrated not just more of the same WE endured under the current Admin, but MORE of the same ON STEROIDS. Even the Pubs are saying these 2 are So much Further to the Right than bush's admin.
Are you blinded? Again?
Here is some real foundation of palins "reality"....if ya wanna know the truth..talk to the people on the ground...who know her.
http://www.andrys.com/palin-kilkenny.html
Don't just repeat the "rationalization points of denial" you are told to think, say and do.
You Cannot change reality by denying the Truth.
the pubs right now look so very foolish, especially post ALL the claims, charges and fantastic interpretations of what their opponents have said, do say and will say in a most vile manner.
Seriously, its Not always about just Winning...Sometimes, its about doing what is right for ALL and not just the few.
We ALL have to consider the consequences by looking into the Big Picture....right now for the future.
Gods Will? and palin
http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/
alrighty...then............
"cool looking" christians
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