July 7, 2008 - 11:51am
Opinion

The Duyck debacle continues

Our favorite liberal blogger, Kari Chisholm over at BlueOregon, wrote yesterday that it was GOP Oregon house candidate Jeff Duyck's own fault for not knowing better what district in which he was legally allowed to run for office. He claims, "It's the candidate's responsibility to figure out where he lives and make sure he's eligible for the seat he wants to run for." Or is it the responsibility of some political hack with close ties to Future PAC, the organization created for the sole purpose of protecting House Democratic incumbents and challengers, to mail in a request after the filing deadline and primary election is over that Duyck is not really a resident of house district 29?

In today's Oregonian, the editorial board came forward with a request to allow Duyck to run for HD 29, citing assurance given to Duyck for years by Washington County as they allowed him to vote and participate in the district. The article states, "it shouldn't take someone playing around with mapping technology to locate where people actually live."

No, it should take competent elected officials who know how to do their job.

WALLY EDGE can be reached via email at politickeror@aol.com.

Comments

You're missing the boat a bit here


I agree that there is a competency issue with Washington County Elections not having Mr. Duyck's registration down appropriately.

That said, Jeff Duyck was one of the top GOP House recruits this cycle. The paper maps provided for these districts are very well done..as is the description of the boundaries. The GOP caucus absolutely should have known that Duyck's property was bisected but the district boundary. If they didn't, there's a competency issue there as well.

The fact that a layperson could figure this out (and I've never heard about the ties to FuturePAC you're citing..but even so...if they could figure it out..) and the GOP House caucus couldn't be bothered to do it speaks volumes of the way they're managing and vetting candidates.

There's more than one incompetency issue here.

07/07/08 5:23 pm

The new voice of Mandate?


"There's more than one incompetency issue here."

But of course, Kari is just your new boss, Carla.

07/08/08 1:39 am

Incompetency abounds


Yeah, I'm certainly not making any excuses for a county clerk that apparently gave a candidate some bad info.

But it's really not that complicated. You don't have to "play around with mapping technology" to figure it out. Assuming that Mr. Duyck knows the boundaries of his own property, it should be fairly apparent where his house is on a detailed legislative map.

And thanks for the "our favorite liberal blogger" line!

(Meanwhile, EBT continues his bizarre vendetta over trivia. Carla's an intern for BlueOregon. So what?)

07/08/08 3:58 am

Bizarre?


From the cheap seats, Kari, it looks like Blue0 is a mouthpiece for the DPO (or at least the clients of Mandate media). But what would I know? You banned me from your blog months ago after I noted your main client's deficits (Merkley's fake anti-war cred) and your own questionable behavior (calling another commenter an "a**h*le" for example).

I'm guessing right about now you're shilling for your boss on the radio? Don't forget your full disclosures, buddy.

07/08/08 11:14 am

So Thom/Hans, do you


So Thom/Hans, do you actually have anything of value to add to the discussion or are you just planning to nurse your grudge against Kari, every progressive who doesn't agree lockstep with you, Democrats-in-general, etc?

If you think I'm wrong about the Duyck situation..then say so and cite why. The rest is little more than your regular BS.

07/08/08 11:22 am

Don't get hot and bothered, Carla/Axtman


You guys keep claiming "BS" on my part, but you never cite specifics. When I said that Merkley lied, I gave specifics. When I say that Kari acts heavy handedly, I give specifics. If I were to challenge you on your online hysterics, I would give specifics.

Carla, you're a profession Dem online attack poodle... bought and paid for by Mandate, and by extension the DPO. If you're uncomfortable with me pointing that out when you engage in your day job, perhaps you're less suited to working for Chisholm than you were for Merkley.

07/08/08 12:17 pm

So in other words Thom/Hans,


So in other words Thom/Hans, you can't actually cite where I you think I might be wrong about Duyck. And in fact, you are continuing to nurse your grudge against Kari and every other progressive who doesn't march in jack-booted lockstep with you.

You can point out whatever gets you through the day. But in the end (and we've been round and round about this before..no matter how much you're debunked, you still post the same garbage) you're a guy with a grudge.

And while we're at it, what exactly is wrong with me attacking Republicans when they deserve it? I've done the same with Dems and Indys...and am going to keep right on doing it.

You attack people all over the place. You're just not effective enough at it to have someone offer to pay you for it.

07/08/08 6:46 pm

Cut to the Quick


That's a mighty long string of accuasations there, Carla...

"you are continuing to nurse your grudge against Kari"

Not really. But I do take offense at Wally referring to Mr. Chisholm as a "liberal blogger." (And "favorite"? C'mom!?) Kari is an "establishment" blogger. He is/was on the payroll of my Governor, one of my US Sentators, my Congressman, my House Rep, my Senator in Salem, one of my City Councilmen soon to be mayor... You get my drift, Carla.

"and every other progressive who doesn't march in jack-booted lockstep with you."

This is one of your colorful examples of hyperbole where you're content to exaggerate, if not provide any detail. If you're talking about Speaker Merkley, I'm no great fan of his because he lied about his "anti-war" cred.

http://blog.oregonlive.com/mapesonpolitics/2008/04/from_the_vault_merkle...

"You're debunked"

Where? When? Truth by assertion... again?

"You still post the same garbage"

I merely noted that you worked for Kari. Why are you sensitive about that?

"You're a guy with a grudge."

No, I'm a guy with a blog. It contains my opinions. Sometimes, they spill out onto other blogs. Kari doesn't like me to post on his blog. I'd say he's the one holding the grudge since I'm still banned.

"What exactly is wrong with me attacking Republicans when they deserve it?"

Um, nothing. I don't recall ever voicing that opinion. But are you saying you're "attacking Duyck because he was wrong? Seems kind of petty.

"I've done the same with Dems and Indys..."

Not so much with Jeff Merkley when he was paying you to comment online. You never said a word about that fake anti-war "publication" of his. And when he skipped out on the PDX Peace Rally, you gave him a pass, so...

"and am going to keep right on doing it."

As long as they pay you, right? (And Dr. Evil says, "Riiiiigggghhhht...")

"You attack people all over the place."

I'm sorry it seems that way to you.

"You're just not effective enough at it to have someone offer to pay you for it."

Well, no. Nobody is paying me to monitor the internet and post comments.

You win, Carla.

http://bp0.blogger.com/__JMkDS58xRk/SCCImxFPXBI/AAAAAAAAA1k/STmYdpDWI8I/...

07/08/08 10:15 pm

Not really. But I do take


Not really. But I do take offense at Wally referring to Mr. Chisholm as a "liberal blogger." (And "favorite"? C'mom!?) Kari is an "establishment" blogger. He is/was on the payroll of my Governor, one of my US Sentators, my Congressman, my House Rep, my Senator in Salem, one of my City Councilmen soon to be mayor... You get my drift, Carla.

Yes I get your drift..and it smells just as rotten as ever.

You're making a fool of yourself, Hans. That is your choice of course.

No, I'm a guy with a blog. It contains my opinions. Sometimes, they spill out onto other blogs. Kari doesn't like me to post on his blog. I'd say he's the one holding the grudge since I'm still banned.

Being a guy with a blog isn't mutually exclusive from having a grudge. You have both. Humping the fact that you're banned from BlueO (one of the very few) for your actions is foolish on your part. But do what you must.

And yes, I get paid to blog. I'm grateful that enough people enjoy my writing and my efforts to pay me to do it. But as you well know, I did it without pay for years.

I'd love to see more bloggers get paid for their work. Some of us have actually made a real difference for progressive candidates and issues. Then there's those (like yourself) who consistently work to undermine what progressives are trying to do.

07/10/08 11:17 am

For the record


Carla, you really disappoint me. Either you took Kari's word for it, or you know very well why he banned me and other pro-Novick bloggers from BlueOregon.com (part of the de facto benefit package for clients of Mandate Media, your new employer).

For the record, I criticized Kari Chisholm's vulgar retort to a female blogger saying:

Posted by: East Bank Thom | Oct 14, 2007 10:13:10 PM

[Stephanie V] - Kari, I didn't say you were hopelessly biased or an unethical asshole

Stephanie, the first phrase roughly paraphrases what Kari admitted about himself. The latter insult (minus the adjective) was slung against you by Jeff Merkley's paid media consultant. Money well spent indeed.

I don't know if Kari was more embarassed by his online hate speech or the fact that he uses BlueOregon to shill for his clients. At any rate, he deleted my comment and banned me. He even went so far as to lie, by replacing my comment with this.

Posted by: East Bank Thom | Oct 14, 2007 10:13:10 PM
[Ad hominem attack deleted. -editor.]

But Kari was content to stop there. He later posted comments in my own blog in an effort to "out" me. I guess he thought it would quiet me down, and perhaps it worked for a while.

Hey, Wally. Can we get the judge's call here. Was this another example of Jeff Merkley's senior web staffer being a Rogue Donkey?

07/10/08 12:17 pm

Your entire line of


Your entire line of commenting is rehashed, recycled BS that has been debunked and refuted over and again, Hans. Not even Wally Edge can save you.

You've taken your personal grudge and turned it into a bizarre and creepy obsession.

Carry on if you must...but you're the only one who doesn't see it.

07/10/08 1:12 pm

Pah.


Secretary of State drew the lines. The SOS's Office is charged with making sure every person is informed of the district they live in, through the county department of elections.

Therefore, both Bill Bradbury and the Washington County Elections Office are both responsible.

And Carla, nice to see you're drinking the kool-aid instead of actually spending time with REAL people at Dorchester and other gatherings. But, being the female version of Kari Chisholm must be pretty exciting.

07/10/08 10:13 pm

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